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The plot thickens... and so do Sawyer's buns.
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Baum was growing jaded and disenchanted with Oz and it showed in #4 and #5, tho #1-3 were classics. Wanting to start a new series, he purposed to wrap up the storyline with #6. But his new series, that of a little girl and an old captain, going on strange adventures, didn't catch on, and fans clamored for more Oz. So - communications were re-established with Oz.
The last 2 Baum books were published posthumously, and notes for a 13th book were never used. Ruth Plumley Thompson wrote several more books, mostly rather good. O'Niell, the artist, then tried his hand (oddly, Baum's son put in his bid to continue the series, but was rejected.),but his stories were wild & undisciplined. Jack Snow rejected the post-Baum additions and wrote at least 2 books, even referencing Charlie McCarthy of radio fame as a fugitive from Pineville, an Oz town, and making fun of Superman !
The late Dick Martin, with whom I had occasional corrrespondence, was the last chronicler of Oz. After World War II Oz books came out only sporadically. I wrote an Oz novel, tho it uses Casper. In it, Scarecrow marries Scraps and they have 4 children: Terry, Russell, Taffy Etta and Clothilda . I hope to strengthen the marriage scene.

I added that long ago, an all-out thermonuclear war started in what is now Winkie territory, destroying the Rivin empire and was responsible for many phenomena in Oz (such as the Deadly Desert). Technology run wild ! I trace a lot of Oz history, going back to the supercontinent of YamaYamaLand which broke up into all the land masses in the Nonestic Ocean (the 3rd hemisphere of earth, beyond the Rainbow Arch and the Bent Sea).Yama is an ancient Oz word meaning " all ".

Mervyn Peake suffered from Parkinson's Disease and,tho he planned 2 more Gormenghast books after #3 , was barely able to write a publishable draft of TITUS ALONE. A revision of an omitted chapter of it,THE BANQUET AT LADY CUSP-CANINE'S, was published in one of Lin Carter's anthologies. DAW books unfairly decided to stop publishing Lin Carter's World's End epic, and so, tho I can guess what Ganelon Silvermane's intended purpose was, it remains a guess.
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~TaralWayne Oct 5, 2012  Professional General Artist
That would explain the remarkable deterioration of Oz books after about the third... Somebody -- Ace, maybe, or Del Ray -- republished all the Baum Oz novels in the late 1970s. Those are the editions I have and read. I once had a Canadian first edtion of WoOz, but sold it years ago. Should't have, because I didn't get very much. Typical of collectory-snobbery, a Canadian first wasn't worth squat. I've recently read an article on Mervyn Peake that claimed that Titus Alone was more or less what Peake intended, and that his mental condition had little to do with it. If so, it is all the disappointing that the author of two remarkably imaginative works should deliberately write a third that was so dull. I have copis of some of his other work around -- Mr. Pye for example -- and a big collection (by Penguin Books) of shot bits that I never finished reading. Have you read Patrick Maguire's four "Wicked" books? The second was heavy going, but the third and fourth better. I've also got a pastiche by Philip Jose Farmer I did't care for -- as usual, he was just shoe-horning sex into a children's story. There's another adult pastiche that isn't too bad, by a woman whose name I can't seem to remember right now.
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I read and still have the book by Farmer "Barn Stormer in Oz" which dismisses #2 on as fiction. In my own fan-fic Casper,as Wendy prepares to open the door to Oz, warns that an error would land them in Farmer's Oz or Volkov's Oz, or -as Spooky added- "Beautiful Downtown Nowhere".

No, I didn't read the "Wicked" books. I had become saturated with Oz lore and likewise with Mythos lore. I also know of Volkov's Oz books only through the Oz Club. The author knew nothing of Kansas, but somehow felt it was full of ravines, every few miles or so !
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~TaralWayne Oct 6, 2012  Professional General Artist
Kansas does have ravines -- not very grand affairs, mostly. But there are streams that cross the prairies and they do sometimes cut into the sod a few feet. Larger streams cut larger ravines, and rivers have valleys. It's more than such features are few and far between than that Kansas is utterly and completely flat.Nebraska is just as bad, by the way. And you might be surprised to hear that southwester Ontario, between London and Windsor (on the US/Canadian border with Detroit) is no better, just more trees and people.
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By ravines, I mean ~100 ft deep affairs. Also Utah and Idaho were flat at least the parts I toured. I even saw a thunderstorm at a distance, something I never got to see in my home town, due to all the woods, buildings,hills....
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~TaralWayne Oct 6, 2012  Professional General Artist
There may be a few such deep valleys in Kansas but I don't know of them. Toronto has three such systems of deep ravines that might just be about 100 feet deep, though more like 70 or 75. The Rouge River valley in the east, Don River in the middle, and Humber River in the west. All three branch, but the Don into two major rivers, East and West Don, as well as the lesser Black Creek. I'm not very familiar with the Rouge River system, but I know its complex too. As well, there are Mimico and Etobicoke Creeks, which are sizable, and a couple of creeks that are mainly underground now -- Garrison Creek for one. Just west of the city is the Credit River. That's probabaly more rivers and ravines in a 30 mile stretch than in half of Kansas. But you can be surprised. In Saskatchewan there's the Qu'Appele River valley. Although Saskachewan is part of the same Cretacious sea bottom and every bit as flat as Kansas, the Qu'Appelle valley is really deep. I visited it once and climbing the slope out was an arduous hike. More like 200 feet. Yet the province is just as flat as a billiard table. From 100 feet away,you can't see the damn thing! From 10 feet away you only know its there because the far edge -- about 1/4 mile away, is slightly hazier.
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In one fantasy tale "The Symposium of the Gorgon" by Clark Ashton Smith. The time-displaced hero gazes upon ONE eye of the medusa, but not the other. Thus he acquires invulnerability, but retains his mobility.
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~TaralWayne Oct 3, 2012  Professional General Artist
I read two three collections of short stories by Clark Ashton Smith in the 1970s -- the were part of the Ballantyne Adult Fantasy series, and I was serious about boning up on the history of science fiction and fantasy. I didn't care a great deal for CAS -- but, then, I never developed much of taste for pulp fantasy (as opposed to more literary fantasies like LotR, or Alice in Wonderland.) I kept the paperbacks, though, as they were already then becomming "collectibles." I recall L. Sprague DeCamp calling CAS one of the most important poets of the 20th century -- after that I knew DeCamp was a boob and never paid any attention to anything he said again. In one CAS story, a strange disease wipes out a medieval kingdom. Called "the silver death," it apparently turns people into silvery statues ... and quite suddenly, sweeping through a ballroom in moments.
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I have "Hyperborea","Atlantis" and "Zothique". Of course,there weren't enough tales set in Atlantis to produce a full paperback, so several filler tales had to be added. Carter planned,but was unable to produce "Xicarph","Averoigne" and "Malneant"(?) before Ballantine shut down the "Adult Fantasy" department.Still, 2 hardbound books, reprinted from Arkham House, partially filled that hole. At least, one can go over the pothole now.

As for the "Silver Death",it was set in Zothique,millions of years in the future,under a dying sun, and the story was "The Isle of the Torturers". Only a person wearing a certain magic ring could be immune to it,tho one was now a carrier and would set off the plague if (s)he ever took it off.

Favorite Averoigne tale: THE COLOSSUS OF YLOURGNE
Favorite Hyperborea tale: THE TESTAMENT OF ATHAMMAUS & THE ICE-DEMON
Favorite Atlantis tale: THE DEATH OF MALYGRIS
favorite Zothique tale: THE DARK EIDOLON (a BETTER TITle -REVENGE OF THE WIZARD)
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~TaralWayne Oct 3, 2012  Professional General Artist
It is Hyperborea and Zothique I have. I thought I had a third, and itmight have been "Xicarph" but you say that volume was never produced?

My favourite book from the BAFS was probably, Lud in the Mist, by Hope Mirlees. I have three different paperback editions -- there aren't a whole lot of them, and only one hardcover -- the first -- that I know of.
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